Caveats about Conversing Astrally with Other People … by Alice ..

Filmed on 18 June 2017

  • On Observing the Subconscious Clair Chatter of Those Now Arising
  • How Celibate or Solitary People Talk with the Lightworker Subconsciously Before Arising
  • How Meandering Thought Forms of Others Find Their Way to Your Energy Field
  • How Thought Forms of Others Glom to Our Auric Wounds
  • How Other People’s Thought Forms Wander Away from Us When Our Auras Heal Up
  • Using the Astral Sidestepping Technique for Thoughts from Solitary People, and for Meandering Thought Forms That We Encounter
  • Subconscious Conversations Among People in Polyamorous Groups Not Yet Arisen
  • These Subconscious Conversations Express Repressed Negspeak and Negative Opinions of Members of the Group
  • On Achieving the Personal Unity Experience
    • On Giving the Inner Child a Chance to Speak So As to Unite the Lower and Higher Mental Bodies
    • On Uniting the Hemispheres of the Brain
    • On Achieving Complete Unity of Our Personal Intelligence Fields Through Soul Wisdom
  • The Astral Turmoil Caused by People Sleeping Together
  • On Dealing with the Repressed Thoughts of a Married Couple
    • Popcorn Thoughts from Someone Else in Church
    • A Woman and a Child Sat Down, Then Left
    • A Married Couple Came and Sat Down
    • How Easy It Was to Converse Astrally with the Couple
  • Difficulties in Conversing with Polyamorous Groupings
  • Polyamorous Groups Converse Subconsciously before Arising
  • In-Groups Who Have Not Yet Arisen Subconsciously War Against Outgroups or Outsider Individuals)
  • Using Lucid Dreaming, Twilight Sleep, or Yoga Nidra to Become Aware of Subconscious Conversations of Polyamorous Groups
  • Christian Churches Warring Because of Creed Differences
  • On Polyamorous Groups Middling Awakened: Dangers of Acting Out Because of a Perceived Leader’s Half-Awake Command to the Group
  • On Avoiding Polyamorous Groups Till They Become Conscious Enough Not to ‘Act Out’
  • Current Difficulties for Long-Married Couples

Dear Ones,

Here is a video on the perils and pitfalls of aiding the ascension process through conversing astrally with other individuals, couples, and groups, especially polyamorous groups. There’s also a little on the way that negative thought forms arrive in our field of awareness, and how to get rid of them. There’s a Summary after the video; text not in the video is in green font …

VIDEO BY ALICE

SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO

Hello, Dear Ones, It’s Alice. I Am of the Stars.

I had an interesting revelation at church today. which I’ll try to explain.

On Observing the Subconscious Clair Chatter of Those Now Arising

When people are rising to consciousness, and becoming aware of the repressed thought forms; the emotion-laden thought forms … generally negative ones … in their gut brains, and you as an ascensioneer or lightworker are observing the clair chatter in their subconscious minds, the first thing that you’ll notice is a lot of negspeak.

And I’ve published a separate blog explaining a way to deal with that negspeak that transforms it from the negative to the positive: See “Sidestepping a Subconscious Astral Attack,” by Alice, http://wp.me/p2Rkym-7pE .

So you, as an observer of the subconscious minds of other people, and of the unconscious thought cloud of the world, can step aside, in neutral mind, and observe all that.

Now, I’d like to talk a little about how people speak together subconsciously, before they arise to consciousness of their gut brains.

How Celibate or Solitary People Talk with the Lightworker Subconsciously Before Arising

You may find individual people, generally solitary people … people who live alone, or are celibate, like that … talking to you; sending thought forms to you on the astral plane, in response to your own subconscious meanderings, especially emotion-laden feelings.

How Meandering Thought Forms of Others Find Their Way to Your Energy Field

Thought forms, in addition, meander around through the unconscious thought cloud of the world, just looking for a similar vibration, or a similar energy thread to combine with. And sometimes these stray thoughts of people, thoughts that have no specific direction or person that they’re being aimed at, will arrive at your door in response, simply, to an emotion that you’re feeling.

How Thought Forms of Others Glom to Our Auric Wounds

When there is an insufficiency in the aura, a localized morphogenetic field distortion that has a certain off-pitch sound to is, it will attract stray, emotion-laden thought forms that match the off-pitch quality of the auric defect.

How Other People’s Thought Forms Wander Away from Us When Our Auras Heal Up

As we do exercises and undergo dietary purification and other techniques to heal our auras, we can hear the accumulated negspeak thoughts that have accumulated at a localized distortion of our auric light. At first they hang on, and activate as we stretch and cleanse. Then later, as our aura heals, they have no further place to connect to our energy field; as they slide or slur off our human electromagnetic field, I often hear them complain of being dislodged:

Hey! I can’t find a place to latch on! Maybe I’ll try the back of the heart! Maybe I’ll try the sexual organs! Maybe I’ll try the rectum!

And so on. If they are unsuccessful at reconnecting in a new location, I can hear them floating off disconsolately. I’ve never heard this process described in the occult literature, but I’ve heard it happen so many times that I’m quite certain of it. However, I don’t know why it happens: Why would a thought form grow attached to a person? How would it know to seek around elsewhere in the aura for a place to lodge on? How bright is a thought form, anyway?

Using the Astral Sidestepping Technique for Thoughts from Solitary People, and for Meandering Thought Forms That We Encounter

But I digress. To continue with the video: 

  • There are the thoughts of solitary people, that are presented as one-on-one, in response to a subconscious thought form that you’ve broadcast unawares.
  • There are also wandering thought forms that have no home; that find their way to you simply because there’s a resonance there.
  • And these two can be dealt with pretty easily using the astral sidestepping technique I’ve mentioned in another blog.

Subconscious Conversations Among People in Polyamorous Groups Not Yet Arisen

Now with regard to groups of people who are still strongly tied into the subconsciousness of the gut brain, and haven’t started the process of becoming aware of their subconscious tendencies; their samskaras and so forth, through clearing their natal tendencies, and clearing their morphogenetic fields … as some say, their karmic miasmic distortions of the Light … there are a lot of names for that, but it is these kinds of groups of people that are responsible for the sounds that we hear on the subconscious plane, I think:

A lot of people agree to that, in many different faiths and philosophical traditions. Anyway, people who are bound together through the gut brain … and this generally happens because they’re having sex together … before they rise to conscious, their subconscious minds, their gut brains, actually carry on conversations together, that you might think were conscious conversations, and might even think were conspiracies against you, or plans against you.

These Subconscious Conversations Express Repressed Negspeak and Negative Opinions of Members of the Group

And this is because it’s primarily negspeak, and negative opinions that are not socially acceptable; that don’t live up to societal expectations; that are being bound down and repressed in the gut brain, as part of the inner child that’s not allowed to speak; that isn’t allowed a voice in the world, after the age of reason is attained.

On Achieving the Personal Unity Experience

On Giving the Inner Child a Chance to Speak So As to Unite the Lower and Higher Mental Bodies. So our job is to give that child a chance to speak; to say all of her upsets, or his upsets. To say all of his hopes and expectations that have not been met. And to just allow that child into our own grown-up hearts so that we can become one, from the Lower Mental Body to the Higher Mental Body.

On Uniting the Hemispheres of the Brain. That’s our hope. And of course the other hope is to unite the left and right hemispheres of the brain, and then have a unified Higher Mental Body.

On Achieving Complete Unity of Our Personal Intelligence Fields Through Soul Wisdom. And a still greater hope is, through the Soul’s wisdom, to unite all the intelligences of all of our bodies … both subtle and physical … so that we can act as one, as one person with one Soul, and through the Soul’s learning.

The Astral Turmoil Caused by People Sleeping Together

So, all the people on Earth are rising up to this call of Soul wisdom, and Soul learning, and unconditional love right now, right? But there’s this turmoil and maelstrom going on; and it has to do with the fact that people are sleeping together.

On Dealing with the Repressed Thoughts of a Married Couple

If the people that are sleeping together are a married couple, that have been together for a long time, and feel loved towards each other, it’s pretty easy to deal with their repressed thoughts … even if they have a negative thought.

Like in church today, there was someone in front of me … some ways away from me … who was doing the Iwo Jima thing (see “The Iwo Jima Leap of a Soul Wounding Experience,” by Alice, http://wp.me/p2Rkym-7kS ), only a much modified version.

Popcorn Thoughts from Someone Else in Church. He kept having repressed thoughts. One of them had to do with: Will you have sex with me? [over and over again] And that had to do with his inner child not being satisfied with regard to sexual joy. Maybe he had been working too hard … Most likely, he just overlooked that he really needed to take care of that situation and please his body cells and himself.

And so, over and over again, this unfulfilled desire came of him, popped out of his Higher Mental Body (in the area of the right side of his brain), and slammed into my brain. It was like giant popcorn popping out at me: Ptchoo! Ptchooo! Ptchoo!

Because I had had some experience with the Iwo Jima thing, I was ready. And I almost immediately placed the thought forms to this one person who was some ways in front of me.

So then I started employing the astral sidestepping technique referred to above, the one that’s in my other blog. And that was working not too well after a while, because he started to fall asleep, to become semi-somnambulent, during the talk. (And semi-somnambulence leads to increased subconscious astral chatter from our inner child.)

But before that, I had some success. Let’s see, what was he talking about subconsciously? Yes, I recall: At first he was saying: Don’t look at me! Don’t look at my back! Don’t think about me! Don’t look at me! … Like that, over and over again. Because he felt, I guess, self-conscious about being in front of a woman, I guess.

A Woman and a Child Sat Down, Then Left. So I was using the sidestepping technique with that pretty well, and then the other topic came up. So in the meantime, a woman and her child sat down beside me. And subconsciously or consciously, they heard the astral commotion that was going on, with regard to the man far in front of me.

A Married Couple Came and Sat DownThe woman and her child got up and left, and a couple came and sat down beside me. The couple had in mind: Maybe there was devilish stuff going on … That was in their subconscious minds … They would take care of it; they would make sure there was none of that in their church!

How Easy It Was to Converse Astrally with the Couple. But because they had this foundation of love between them, as a couple, I was able to talk to them consciously. And they were much more conscious of what was going on in their gut brains. So that was easy to deal with, basically. It was very easy. And I arrived at some very fruitful insights and conclusions because of the talk that we had together.

Difficulties in Conversing with Polyamorous Groupings

Now there’s one other type of situation that I want to talk to you about, that’s much more difficult to deal with:

That is the situation of polyamory … when there are people in a group who are all making love together;

  • who are, for instance, say, six people in a group. or eight people in a group, who are perhaps married couples who are ‘swinging’ with other married couples.
  • Or it might be just a group of single people; say 12 single people, who are all exchanging sexual favors amongst themselves.
  • Or it might be in a group situation, where everyone in a group sleeps with everyone else in the group,
  • or maybe only with the leader, or with him as well as one’s partner

Polyamorous Groups Converse Subconsciously before Arising

These situations present to the lightworker or ascensioneer in a much different, and much more threatening manner. Basically, what’s happening is, all of the people in the polyamorous grouping talk together subconsciously.

In-Groups Who Have Not Yet Arisen Subconsciously War Against Outgroups or Outsider Individuals)

And as a clair person, you can hear them talking, and it seems like they’re doing a conspiracy thing against you. They’re doing an ingroup thing. And that involves war on outsiders; war on outgroups. And you represent the outgroup, right? Because you’re not sleeping with them.

Using Lucid Dreaming, Twilight Sleep, or Yoga Nidra to Become Aware of Subconscious Conversations of Polyamorous Groups

And so, at this stage of the ascension process, that ingroup-outgroup thing … a warring on outgroups … can result in physical danger to the ascensioneer; or even mortal peril.

You’ll hear about this especially when you fall asleep, and are hopefully in a lucid dreaming state … or are doing yoga nidra (search this term on the site Abhyasa Ashram, www.swamij.com ), which is a very important skill to learn right now.

So if you’re sleeping, and you’re aware of what’s going on at the same time; or if you’re just waking up from a deep sleep, then you can notice, and you will find out, what is happening in the minds of these other, polyamorous groups, with regard to you. And after that, you can fashion a way to deal with that situation.

I’ll have more on this in the future. I’d just like to put out there, that that’s the cause of this problem. The cause of this problem is polyamory. That’s the cause of the danger to lightworkers right now … it’s an ingroup-outgroup thing.

Christian Churches Warring Because of Creed Differences 

And it happens between Christian churches as well, because of creeds and beliefs being different for the various churches.

On Polyamorous Groups Middling Awakened: Dangers of Acting Out Because of a Perceived Leader’s Half-Awake Command to the Group

But the most dangerous situation has to do with shared sexual intercourse amongst the people in a particular group, because that gathers and garners the subconscious minds and the gut brains of a bunch of people together.

And they talk and plot together, as if they are in an ascension group. And typically, as these semi-somnambulent groups of polyamorous people begin to rise to consciousness, there will be one person … maybe the person perceived as the most powerful, as the leader, for reasons of fame or power … who attains an acting out point with regard to the ascensioneer or lightworker, and who … generally through an email or phone call … signals the other members of the polyamorous group, to act in some way against the lightworker or ascensioneer.

And that is just a middling step that is happening: An ‘acting out’ where everybody in the group thinks that is what they’re supposed to do, because the person perceived as the leader told them to do it.

They’re actually rising to consciousness faster than he, because they’re in a defensive position; he’s the leader, right? So he has the power over them. And so, he comes up with something, an action plan, but he doesn’t really know the full intent of what he’s doing. He’s half sleep-walking too. And that’s the danger zone.

On Avoiding Polyamorous Groups Till They Become Conscious Enough Not to ‘Act Out’

Then there comes a point after that … If you survive as a lightworker! [laughs] … There comes a point, if you’re nimble on your feet; if you know what to do; if you know where to go and what to avoid … If you stop talking to them altogether, for instance, and turn to another group … then there will come a point at which they all become conscious enough to know not to ‘act out’ anymore. And that’s something to look forward to.

Current Difficulties for Long-Married Couples

For those of you ascensioneers and lightworkers who are united in marriage with someone, I believe it would probably be less of a problem, if it’s a happy marriage. However, I have noticed that many of the lightworkers, who are happily married, have been experiencing marital difficulties right now. Because there is a certain amount of the glom effect involved in marital bonding. And so it’s a little bit more difficult than it would be for a celibate person, to achieve complete Soul clearing.

That’s all for now. You all take care! Love you all lots! Have a wonderful Solstice celebration in this June of 2017.

In love, light and joy,
I Am of the Stars
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